Bibbins Family - Ourfolk

Title: Email from Roberta Heorman

Author: Roberta Heorman
Hi Al: I just about fell off my chair when I found your posting about Luther Bibbins on Ancestry. I have searched for information for so long about this family. Luther Bibbins married Hannah Perkins in Hampton, Washington Co., NY (don't have a date) and they moved west to Genesee (later Wyoming Co., NY) before 1809.Hannah died in Warsaw, Wyoming Co., NY on January 3, 1809. Have much information I will share on the Perkins family if you desire. One very interesting fact is the son 'Smith Bibbins'. He would have been named after his grandmother. Would be interested in hearing from you. Roberta Heorman --- Hi Al: I have two family handwritten source documents from my Perkins family with mention of Hannah Perkins and Luther Bibbins. One was written by my greatgrandfather with information about his family, parents and grandparents. Hannah was his father's sister. Hannah was the second child born to Moses Perkins and Mary Smith Perkins. Hannah was born in Wallingford, CT on Feb. 11, 1771. The family moved to Hampton, Washington Co., NY in about 1785 where they remained until early 1800s. Two brothers of Hannah had moved west to Warsaw, NY and the other family members followed shortly thereafter. The info says that Hannah died in Warsaw but I question the place inthat she died in 1809 and I believe that was before family members had moved to Warsaw. Have never found a cemetery location for Hannah which leaves me to believe that she may have died either at Hampton or elsewhere. From your info it is possible it was at Plattsburgh. Two brothers of Hannah are buried at Hampton Hill Cemetery, Hampton, NY and it is possible that Hannah could have been buried there but with no headstone. Moses Perkins died Nov 17, 1836 at age 90 and Mary died Dec 27, 1817 and both are buried at Warsaw Pioneer Cemetery at Warsaw. The families of the brothers and sisters of Hannah (those still living) remained at Warsaw until about 1851. Brother, Sylvester, (my greatgrandfather) moved west to DeKalb Co., IL in 1851 where he remained until his death. Another interesting piece of information is that Anson Abriam Perkins, brother of Hannah, migrated in 1851 from DeKalb Co. IL to Beloit, WI where Anson and his wife, Betsey, died in 1857. Beloit, WI is only a short distance from DeKalb Co. IL. I note that is where the Bibbins sons lived, probably arriving there with the other Perkins family members. Info concerning the name 'Smith' as in Smith Bibbins, Hannah Perkins' mother was Mary Smith, daughter of John Smith and Mary Cook. Another tie to the Perkins family that I think is interesting is that Samuel Bibbins, son of Luther and Hannah, became a Methodist Minister. Sylvester Perkins was a Methodist Minister and Sylvester's wife was Mary Hooker, direct descendent of Thomas Hooker, the early founder of Hartford, CT and minister. (There is much written about Thomas Hooker and his role in early formation of laws of CT, etc.) There are other Methodist ministers in the family including my greatgrandfather. I am not sure how to begin with information but will try. Will send a separatee-mail with family information of Moses and Mary and we will work from there. Look forward to sharing information. Roberta --- Hampton Hill Cemetery
Published: Feb 15, 2004

Title: email from Charles Bibbins

Author: Charles Bibbins
Hi Al: I just about fell off my chair when I found your posting about Luther Bibbins on Ancestry. I have searched for information for so long about this family. Luther Bibbins married Hannah Perkins in Hampton, Washington Co., NY (don't have a date) and they moved west to Genesee (later Wyoming Co., NY) before 1809.Hannah died in Warsaw, Wyoming Co., NY on January 3, 1809. Have much information I will share on the Perkins family if you desire. One very interesting fact is the son 'Smith Bibbins'. He would have been named after his grandmother. Would be interested in hearing from you. Roberta Heorman --- Hi Al: I have two family handwritten source documents from my Perkins family with mention of Hannah Perkins and Luther Bibbins. One was written by my greatgrandfather with information about his family, parents and grandparents. Hannah was his father's sister. Hannah was the second child born to Moses Perkins and Mary Smith Perkins. Hannah was born in Wallingford, CT on Feb. 11, 1771. The family moved to Hampton, Washington Co., NY in about 1785 where they remained until early 1800s. Two brothers of Hannah had moved west to Warsaw, NY and the other family members followed shortly thereafter. The info says that Hannah died in Warsaw but I question the place inthat she died in 1809 and I believe that was before family members had moved to Warsaw. Have never found a cemetery location for Hannah which leaves me to believe that she may have died either at Hampton or elsewhere. From your info it is possible it was at Plattsburgh. Two brothers of Hannah are buried at Hampton Hill Cemetery, Hampton, NY and it is possible that Hannah could have been buried there but with no headstone. Moses Perkins died Nov 17, 1836 at age 90 and Mary died Dec 27, 1817 and both are buried at Warsaw Pioneer Cemetery at Warsaw. The families of the brothers and sisters of Hannah (those still living) remained at Warsaw until about 1851. Brother, Sylvester, (my greatgrandfather) moved west to DeKalb Co., IL in 1851 where he remained until his death. Another interesting piece of information is that Anson Abriam Perkins, brother of Hannah, migrated in 1851 from DeKalb Co. IL to Beloit, WI where Anson and his wife, Betsey, died in 1857. Beloit, WI is only a short distance from DeKalb Co. IL. I note that is where the Bibbins sons lived, probably arriving there with the other Perkins family members. Info concerning the name 'Smith' as in Smith Bibbins, Hannah Perkins' mother was Mary Smith, daughter of John Smith and Mary Cook. Another tie to the Perkins family that I think is interesting is that Samuel Bibbins, son of Luther and Hannah, became a Methodist Minister. Sylvester Perkins was a Methodist Minister and Sylvester's wife was Mary Hooker, direct descendent of Thomas Hooker, the early founder of Hartford, CT and minister. (There is much written about Thomas Hooker and his role in early formation of laws of CT, etc.) There are other Methodist ministers in the family including my greatgrandfather. I am not sure how to begin with information but will try. Will send a separatee-mail with family information of Moses and Mary and we will work from there. Look forward to sharing information. Roberta --- Hampton Hill Cemetery
Al - We just got home from a wonderful month-long trip to New Zealand and Australia and have been plowing thru the accumulated e-mail messages. I was very excited to read the message you forwarded from Roberta which gave powerful support to our assumption that Smith, Lucy and Rev Samuel were children of Luther. The fact that Smith's name was the same as Hannah's mother's surname is a big clue as is the tie-in between the Perkins family and Hampton NY. Several years ago I visited the Wyoming Co Historic Assn in Warsaw NY to try to connect the members of our family. Among the factors I learned were: Lucy Bibbins and her husband Rufus Morris lived in Warsaw most of their married lives and were buried in the Warsaw Village Pioneer Cemetery where Hannah's parents are also buried. Lucy's first child was named Luther. In 1958 Edith Duchee wrote a letter to the Historic Assn that said in part 'My mother was Sarah Morris, daughter of Rufus and Lucy Bibbins Morris. I have written in that Lucy's mother and father were Hannah and Luther Bibbins. I have no idea where I got the information'. This is consistent with what Roberta wrote you. Per the History of Warsaw by Andrew Young, Warsaw was 'commenced' in 1803 by Elizur Webster of Hampton NY. It is likely he knew Luther and his father Samuel since Samuel had been a leading citizen of Hampton from before the Rev. War until about 1809 when Samuel died. The fact that the Perkins family lived in Hampton at that time completes and obvious family triangle and makes it logical that Luther's 3 married children would move to the Warsaw area. The 1800 census for Hampton showed Luther with a wife, two young sons and 3 daughters (although these children are not necessarily his). Luther lived in Fair Haven VT in 1809 which is adjacent to Hampton. He was not listed in the 1810 census (which may just mean that after Hannah died he and his family moved in with a relative), and in 1820 he lived in Salina NY (now part of Syracuse) next door to his son Rev Samuel. Samuel's first child, Elisha, was born in Warsaw in 1823. The fact that the Perkins were active Methodists including more than one ministers was very interesting. Luther's father Samuel hosted a meeting in 1788 with two Methodist circuit riders from Saratoga to help bring the church to Washington Co (which included Hampton). Luther's son Samuel and his son Elisha became Methodist ministers. Luther's brothers, also named Samuel and Elisha, were also Methodist ministers. Thus the Bibbins and Perkins families had a great deal in common. This seemed to continue in the 1850's when Smith and his family moved to Beloit WI a few years after Hannah's brother settled there. It is interesting, too, that Roberta could find no record of where Hannah was buried which she suspects was in Hampton in 1809. I have found no record of the elder Samuel's death (altho it seems to have been about 1809) nor where he was buried (altho one rumor had it that it was in Hampton). Samuel and Hannah may well have been buried in the same cemetery which subsequently fell into disrepair. This all fits together very nicely. Please thank Roberta for me for sharing this valuable information with us. Charlie

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